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The Super Natural: A New Vision of the Unexplained

inglés2016 (Jeremy P. Tarcher / Penguin, Nueva York)

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Se presenta como conversación entre dos oficios sobre un mismo material. La propuesta la enuncia Kripal en plural: «In the pages that follow, Whitley and I explore the proposal that we are all embedded in a much larger, fiercely alive and richly conscious reality» «Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 9». El método lo declara en la página siguiente: «We work in tandem. We read each other. We rewrite our chapters in the light of what the other has written» «Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 10».

El título es una separación deliberada de palabras: se trata de moverse «beyond both the flatland materialism of scientism (the natural) and the naive literalisms of certain types of religion (the supernatural)» «Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 24», y Strieber adopta el término de Kripal explícitamente «Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 29».

La obra no promete cierre y lo dice: «We have no such easy or settled answers» «Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 11». Y termina con un desacuerdo firmado entre sus dos autores sobre qué herramienta sirve —la ciencia o las humanidades— que ninguno de los dos resuelve «Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 252».

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«we are already and always have been living in a super natural world, that we ourselves are highly evolved prisms or mediums of this super nature coming into consciousness»la tesis del título, en plural por los dos.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 10»

«We work in tandem. We read each other. We rewrite our chapters in the light of what the other has written. In the process, we rewrite ourselves.»declara el procedimiento de escritura del libro.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 10»

«a seasoned (take that either way) professor of comparative religion»así se describe a sí mismo, frente a Strieber como «one of the most widely read figures in UFO and abduction literature».

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 10»

«far from being what he has been portrayed in the media—that is, an advocate for belief in alien abduction—reveals himself in his chapters as a questioning and self-critical nonreligious but spiritual man»declara qué NO es Strieber, en su lectura.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 10»

«Both of us have known professional rejection, religious hate campaigns, censorship, and outright character slander»consigna la recepción de ambos como dato del propio libro.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 11»

«We want to model a different sort of conversation about the importance of experienced anomalies»enuncia el propósito como cambio de conversación, no como respuesta.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 11»

«Superpowers have been with us for millennia»sitúa lo extraordinario en escala histórica larga.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 12»

«I compare fantastic states of mind and energy in order to catch a glimpse of our own super nature»formula su propio oficio.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 13»

«if Communion is not a piece of modern erotic mystical literature, then I do not know what it is»adjudica género literario a la obra de Strieber.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 14»

«Out of existential necessity and the transcendent traumas of his own immediate experience, he was implicitly, intuitively practicing the comparative study of religion.»atribuye a Strieber una práctica comparativa implícita.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 14»

«I have come to consider him and Communion as litmus tests for my field»declara a Strieber prueba de fuego de su disciplina.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 14»

«UFO” is an umbrella term that encodes a particular cold war military history and encompasses very diverse historical facts, institutions, and experiential events»el término como categoría-papelera.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 15»

«millennia-old folklore currents, particularly around the abductions and otherworlds of faerie lore, as famously pointed out by Jacques Vallee»parte del inventario de lo que la papelera mezcla; adjudica la conexión feérica a Vallee, sin tilde en la obra.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 15»

«various ancient Gnostic and early modern esoteric teachings; more recent Theosophical and New Age beliefs and channeling practices»continúa el inventario; el esoterismo entra nombrado.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 16»

«helped shape the earlier language of the “channel,” from medical clairvoyant Edgar Cayce, into its contemporary use»data el vocabulario del *channeling* en las comunidades de contactados de los años 50 y en Cayce.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 16»

«Whatever the ultimate origin of such events might be»la fórmula con que se abstiene de decir qué son los visitantes.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 15»

«setting these aside in order to move beyond and past them to the much older and deeper roots of the encounters in the global history of mystical and esoteric literature»segunda mitad de la maniobra metodológica: reconocer la capa militar y apartarla.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 17»

«It is very easy to explain everything on the table if you have just taken off the table everything that you cannot explain.»objeción al *debunker* ideológico.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 18»

«best exemplified in figures like Erich von Däniken, author of Chariots of the Gods? (1968), and his followers»así nombra la comparación reductiva, que lee el pasado desde el presente.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 19»

«best exemplified in the writing of various Evangelical and fundamentalist authors who interpret UFOs and aliens as portents of the end of the world and/or as demons»así nombra la comparación religiosa, que lee el presente desde el pasado.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 20»

«whatever the prophet saw within his own “abduction” experience, it was no chariot. Not even close»objeta la lectura de Ezequiel como carro.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 21»

«the biblical book itself never uses the word “chariot.”»el dato con que sostiene la objeción anterior.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 21»

«Basically, they are invoking chariots.»extiende la misma objeción a los rabinos y cabalistas que leyeron ahí la Merkabá.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 22»

«shoot the arrow both ways»la regla comparativa del libro: no privilegiar ni el pasado ni el presente.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 23»

«Not a straight arrow but an upward spiral»la figura temporal con que corrige la flecha.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 23»

«our future changes the meanings of their past»el «futuro del pasado» como operación hermenéutica.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 23»

«There is a kind of recurring time loop, a constant return to the past in order to reassess and recalibrate the present toward a different kind of future.»la formula como bucle, no como progreso.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 23»

«we move beyond both the flatland materialism of scientism (the natural) and the naive literalisms of certain types of religion (the supernatural)»justificación del título separado en dos palabras.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 24»

«As John Keel put it with respect to his own paranormal researches: “Belief is the enemy.”»cita a Keel y en la misma página matiza: «I would not go that far.»

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 42»

«Fundamentalism, of whatever stripe, is the curse and cancer of religious belief.»su formulación sobre la creencia fija.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 42»

«the ideological debunker is also a fundamentalist, if of a very different stripe»iguala las dos posiciones por su estructura, no por su contenido.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 42»

«The debunker makes a liar out of a truth teller»el efecto que le adjudica.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 42»

«the entire history of religions can be summed up this way: strange superbeings from the sky come down to interact with human beings, provide them with cultural, technological, legal, and ethical knowledge»su tesis sobre la historia de las religiones; sigue con guiarlos, aterrarlos, exigirles sumisión y tener sexo con ellos.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 76»

«Others had suggested something similar»enumera precedentes de la lectura folclórica: John Keel, Jacques Vallee y Eddie Bullard.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 83»

«there is something more “physical,” “realist,” or “biological” about Strieber’s suggestions.»marca en qué difiere Strieber de esos precedentes.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 83»

«The same god also gave us the words “Hermetic” and “Hermeticism,” both referring to an ancient Egyptian-Greek stream of secret teachings about the deepest nature of the human mind»única página donde la obra usa la palabra *hermetic*, y lo hace derivándola de Hermes junto con la hermenéutica.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 98»

«Whitley’s visions mostly fall into this camp»las adscribe al imaginal simbólico (visión salvaje), no al clarividente (talento salvaje).

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 108»

«Here the human imagination is not so much clairvoyant as it is an organ of revelation»define así el imaginal simbólico.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 108»

«I must add that we cannot treat these two forms of the imaginal as mutually exclusive.»la reserva con que impide leer su propia distinción como tipología cerrada.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 108»

«What if what we so naively call “sex” is not some dumb instinct but a conscious cosmic energy in its own right that is super-intelligent»lo plantea como pregunta; sigue con que esa energía «escribió» y «coescribe» a los humanos vía ADN.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 131»

«This is a modern translation of what Plato was getting at when he called eros a god»adjudica el linaje de esa erótica a Platón.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 131»

«I am not saying: “Whitley Strieber is a shaman.” Nor am I saying: “Whitley Strieber is a prophet.”»negativa triple; añade que tampoco dice que chamanismo y profecía sean funciones de abducciones.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 166»

«Gurdjieff and Ouspensky are central, for example, to his convictions around the paradoxes of “the third”»adjudica a Strieber ese linaje como clave de lectura.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 170»

«there is almost certainly only one world, of which our mental and material experiences are two dimensions or modes»la ontología del un solo mundo, con el modalizador «almost certainly» que la obra sí escribe.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 172»

«the English “to narrate” is based on a Greek root (gno-) that means “to know” and from which we get the word “gnosis”»enlaza narración y gnosis por etimología.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 172»

«As knowing subjects, we are not one but two»enuncia el Humano como Dos.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 189»

«Consciousness is not ego. Consciousness is not culture. And yet no ego or culture can exist without “It.”»la formulación completa de esa dualidad.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 189»

«I confess. This central notion of the Human as Two makes sense of pretty much everything for me.»es confesión de Kripal en su propio capítulo, no de Strieber.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 189»

«Here the soul is a conscious star gently blazing inside a skull.»sobre la lectura antigua del alma como astro.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 218»

«Here the soul is a UFO that has landed for a time in a body-brain»la identificación alma/ovni, atribuyendo a Strieber la fórmula «a sort of biological technology».

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 218»

«By a “spiritual body,” then, Paul did not mean an “immaterial” one. He meant a real immortal body that shines like the stars»lee el *soma pneumatikon* de 1 Cor 15:45–49 como cuerpo sutilmente material.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 219»

«The early Christian Gnostic texts are filled with similar convictions about our true home among the stars, about the secret spark of divinity that sleeps in us all»sigue con la naturaleza estelar del alma y el salvador venido de las estrellas.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 219»

«I think Chris is right.»suscribe la fórmula de Christopher Knowles sobre el gnosticismo cristiano temprano como primer culto del platillo volador.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 219»

«rejected belief, ritual, sacrifice, and martyrdom»así caracteriza esa espiritualidad gnóstica, que proclamaba un conocimiento místico directo del *pneuma*.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 219»

«The ancient Gnostics did not know what we know. They did not have evolutionary biology, modern cosmology, and quantum physics.»marca la distancia que impide la identificación simple.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 220»

«Here God is not like light. God is light.»glosa las «energías» de Dios en Gregorio Palamás, con los deificados vueltos *homotheoi*.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 223»

«I would go so far as to suggest that we need the older mystical ideas of the subtly material “spiritual body,” the “energies of God,” and the deifying light to really understand the contemporary UFO encounters.»su tesis de continuidad más fuerte.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 224»

«Which does not mean, of course, that we must adopt the older understandings and belief systems. We do not.»la reserva que acompaña a la tesis anterior.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 224»

«contemporary abductees do experience “becoming a god” within these illuminations»Añade que callan por vergüenza o miedo.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 224»

«He was talking about pneuma, the subtly material “spirit” of the Gnostics.»así lee el «homoplasmate» y el «bio-linguistic plasma» de Philip K. Dick.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 225»

«Whitley, or so it seems to me, often appears to think that science is the way forward»abre el desacuerdo con su coautor; sigue «I am very skeptical of this».

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · pp. 250, 251»

«because it is not a military or technological object, because it is a mythical object»el ovni como objeto mítico.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 251»

«I mean a friggin’ story that shows up on radar.»la formulación paradójica con que define ese objeto.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 251»

«it was foolish to turn to engineers in order to understand something in the sky whose true meaning lay in the souls of the contactees and the rich history of Western esotericism»adjudica el argumento a Keel, *UFOs: Operation Trojan Horse* (1970).

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 251»

«People who study mythology and comparative mystical literature, people like me, are almost universally allergic to accepting the possibility that these subjects might be real objects»autocrítica gremial.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 251»

«Whitley’s faith in science and my faith in the humanities are probably both misplaced. Neither can really deliver the goods here.»cierra el desacuerdo sin resolverlo a favor de nadie.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 252»

«If you are worshiping a god, any god (including “God”), you are basically “worshipping Zeus.”»su posición sobre el culto.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 253»

«I don’t do conspiracy»se desmarca de la teoría conspirativa.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 262»

«Every culture is a trance state. Every ego is a cultural production.»En la misma página: «mythologies are also always ideologies».

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 262»

«we are not the artists but the drawings»lo cita de Philip K. Dick.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 262»

«Whitley and I have done our best in these pages»apéndice, rotulado `JEFF`, hablando por los dos; añade «We have failed, of course, to arrive at any “realness or final awakening.”»

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 278»

«an approximation to realness or final awakening»el título del apéndice sale de Charles Fort, *The Book of the Damned* (1919), que llama a eso «the gossip of angels».

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 278»

Las nueve reglas del método, en versalitas: COMPARE · MAKE A CUT · HISTORICALLY CONTEXTUALIZE · INTERPRET AND DOUBLY IMAGINE · PRACTICE AN EROTICS · SAY AWAY · LISTEN FOR THE TRAUMATIC SECRET · THINK IN TERMS OF AN ENERGETICS · SAY AGAIN.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · pp. 279, 280»

«Hone your Hermes practice, your hermeneutics.»cierre de la cuarta regla, INTERPRET AND DOUBLY IMAGINE.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 279»

«The Renaissance brought reason, the enlightenment that followed the freeing disciplines of structured academic inquiry and scientific method»así abre su primer capítulo, y añade: «However, there is one area that remains outside of understanding».

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 25»

«Moses, Paul, and all the others who encountered such manifestations in the past saw something, just as people who encounter UFOs, orbs of light, and aliens do today»afirma continuidad del encuentro entre lo antiguo y lo moderno.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 26»

«The only things new are the names, and with them a visual grammar that fits our imagination»sitúa la novedad en el vocabulario, no en el fenómeno.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 26»

«bring reason to enchantment»su programa, en tres palabras.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 26»

«In February of 2015, presidential adviser John Podesta tweeted that his greatest regret of 2014 was that he had failed to get the government to release the information it possesses about UFOs.»dato fechado que consigna.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 26»

«they did not act, in my encounters with them, like explorers in any easily understood sense, nor, in my experience, are they aliens in the way that is commonly assumed. But that does not mean they emerge from our minds and nowhere else»su reserva ante la hipótesis extraterrestre, sin caer en la mental.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 27»

«The “alien” is as much a herald from the dark of the universe as it is a signal from the depths of our own minds.»sostiene las dos lecturas a la vez.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 27»

«I don’t believe in the supernatural or the paranormal, but I do feel strongly that these terms are used in our materially focused culture to explain away phenomena that are in some way real»su negativa doctrinal.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 28»

«Aliens both are and are not aliens, for example. Ghosts are both real and illusory, something like reflections.»su registro es paradójico, no disyuntivo.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 28»

«I don’t think that I am perceiving the supernatural, but rather, as Jeff has so adroitly expressed it, the super natural, that which is part of nature but works by rules that are different from those we are familiar with.»adopta el término de su coautor y lo declara.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 29»

«I do not see it as being overseen by a final being, or god. We the living, in all our ancient vastness, are all that is here. But by living, I don’t mean only physically alive.»declaración antiteísta explícita.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 29»

«capering stick insects, others squat, frog-faced trolls who were a deep iridescent blue»así describe a los presentes en el episodio de diciembre de 1985.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 29»

«What can we do to help you stop screaming?»la frase que relata haber oído, en voz femenina robótica.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 29»

«by identifying themselves with owl imagery»sostiene que la imaginería del búho es lenguaje de los visitantes, no coincidencia.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 30»

«My efforts to describe my experiences publicly and accurately have profoundly compromised my credibility.»consigna el costo público de su relato.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 30»

«It’s not nothing. Something happens and it is not confined to the mind. It isn’t hallucinatory. Neither, however, is it real in the same way that we are real, not exactly.»el estatuto que le da al fenómeno.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 31»

«There cannot be consciousness or coherent being outside of the physical—which is, in fact, what I want to believe. Unfortunately for me, though, it simply is not my perception.»declara que su deseo va contra su percepción.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 31»

«They are in my life, but I don’t know what they are»su abstención sobre la naturaleza de los visitantes.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 31»

«I’d prefer to let that sort of debate wander off down its meaningless pathway on its own.»rechaza el debate binario sobre el trucaje de la imagen del gnomo de cámara trampa que le envió Linda Moulton Howe.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 32»

«In the academy and the professional study of religion»reconoce ahí un debate de ciento cincuenta años que apenas llegó a la percepción pública.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 32»

«I am, in my heart, a secular individual, but I do consider it possible, based on personal experience, that there may be conscious being outside of the body.»su posición declarada al cierre del capítulo 2.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 38»

«The Emerald Tablet of Hermes by Hermes Trismegistus, which first appears in an Arabic text in about the eighth century»la data ahí y añade que Newton la tuvo por fundamento del movimiento alquímico.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 60»

«So the kobolds, perhaps, were communicating that it is possible to mine for wisdom by ascending.»lee los episodios de la cabaña como jeroglíficos vivos, no como sucesos brutos.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 60»

«The father of all perfection in the whole world is here. Its force or power is entire if it be converted into earth.»cita la Tabla de Esmeralda en la traducción de Newton.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 61»

«An alchemical transformation that was apparently not so good for the circulatory system of an elderly lawyer»aplica el vocabulario alquímico al episodio del vecino que sangró por la frente.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 61»

«half a lifetime of spiritual search and fifteen years of intensive inner work in the Gurdjieff Foundation»declara su formación; en las páginas vecinas nombra a Ouspensky, *In Search of the Miraculous* y las reuniones en la Fundación de Manhattan.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 92»

«holy the firm»expresión que adjudica a G. I. Gurdjieff.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 94»

«Gurdjieff taught the importance of friction»el linaje operando como clave de lectura de su propia experiencia.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 126»

«A brutal rape by a beloved parent might become a brutal alien abduction»enuncia la hipótesis de sublimación del trauma.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 175»

«A rape by a father becomes a visit from a god. Leda didn’t get ravished by daddy—too unbearable to contemplate. No, it was a swan, and that swan was a god.»la extiende al mito.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 175»

«This might explain many of these experiences, but it should not be used to explain them away.»el límite explícito que le pone a su propia hipótesis.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 175»

«The shattering of expectation that accompanies trauma doesn’t just cause transference, it opens a door.»su lectura del trauma como apertura, no solo como causa.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 175»

«my perception is that our physical reality is embedded in something larger—an island, as it were, alone in a vast ocean»su cosmología, declarada como percepción.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 176»

«I agree with Jeff that these are probably not tracking devices. I also stand by the idea that somebody was there. They had to be. I saw two of them.»sobre el implante: concede la interpretación y sostiene el hecho.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 176»

«I think that the program was run by German scientists who had been brought to the United States as part of Operation Paperclip. They had worked in human behavior in the concentration camps.»su hipótesis sobre el programa que recuerda en Randolph Air Force Base.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 178»

«the title a play on that of Project Blue Book’s Condon Report»así presenta el Condign Report, documento de 408 páginas desclasificado por el Ministerio de Defensa británico.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 196»

«they generate hallucinations»lo que el Condign Report adjudica a los plasmas, según su lectura.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 197»

«Frequencies can be detected and analyzed»su apuesta por la vía instrumental.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 198»

«I would be extremely surprised if aliens have anything to do with any of this. The magical stones of shamanism are quite interesting»correo suyo del 1 de enero de 2015 a Kripal, reproducido dentro de un capítulo de Kripal; añade que le fue «dada» una piedra así.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 166»

«We have always assumed that myth only came out of the mind»pasaje suyo citado en bloque por Kripal dentro del capítulo 17; sigue con que ahora se ve que el mito «isn’t entirely imaginary».

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 251»

«it is not necessary to believe in such things as flying saucers, aliens, ghosts, and other unexplained phenomena in order to study them.»su cierre programático, que él mismo adjudica a Kripal («as Jeff has pointed out»).

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 264»

«If disclosure or some other event created a compelling suggestion, say, that aliens are here, it would be a grave mistake and a great tragedy to attempt to understand them in the context of the popular vision of them.»la consecuencia que teme.

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About the work

12 entries — what the apparatus and scholarship say about it

El asiento catalográfico de la Biblioteca del Congreso da el título completo —«The super natural : a new vision of the unexplained»— y ordena la autoría «Whitley Strieber and Jeffrey J. Kripal», con materias «1. Occultism. 2. Supernatural. 3. Parapsychology». Sello: Jeremy P. Tarcher / Penguin, 2016.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 3»

«I dedicate this book to the memory of Anne Strieber. We evolved our approach to the super natural together.»dedicatoria firmada WHITLEY STRIEBER; le adjudica tres aportes fundacionales.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 4»

«she was able to say with authority that close encounters with apparent aliens often include perceptions of the dead as well»tercer aporte que la dedicatoria adjudica a Anne Strieber, tras leer más de doscientos mil testimonios del público.

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«Instead of shunning the darkness, we can face straight into it with an open mind.»epígrafe del libro, tomado de *Communion* del propio Strieber.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 5»

«The eye with which I see God is the same eye with which God sees me.»segundo epígrafe, atribuido por la obra a Meister Eckhart (1260–1327).

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 5»

«were somehow trying to hide themselves in our folklore»frase de Strieber que Kripal cita de *Communion* dentro de su capítulo 5; no fue escrita para este libro.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 83»

«Thus the corridor into our world could in a very true sense be through our own minds.»otra cita de *Communion* reproducida por Kripal; en el mismo lugar cita el prefacio de 2008 a esa obra, donde Strieber niega que sean «visitantes».

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 83»

«the hippies who saved physics»fórmula que Kripal adjudica a David Kaiser; en la misma página adjudica a Nick Herbert «elemental mind» y «Quantum Tantra».

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 221»

«I realized that the wave/particle paradox had been my first koan, and that I had just solved it.»testimonio de Jane English, doctora en física de altas energías e ilustradora del *Tao Te Ching* con Gia-Fu Feng, citado en bloque por Kripal. Voz de English, no de los autores.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 222»

«They were intentional. In other words: I knew that they knew.»testimonio de «Stuart» sobre tres orbes dorados en Esalen, julio de 2010, citado en bloque por Kripal. Voz de Stuart.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 226»

«Mark Pilkington, Robbie Graham, and Diana Walsh Pasulka»los tres nombres que Kripal señala como quienes sí trabajan la capa militar e ideológica que él aparta.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · p. 261»

El aparato editorial del libro son las notas de las pp. 281–290 («ENTIRELY NATURAL NOTES»), el índice analítico de las pp. 291–304 y la solapa «About the Authors» de las pp. 305–306. Las notas las firma Kripal aunque comenten capítulos de Strieber.

Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016)«Strieber y Kripal — The Super Natural (2016) · pp. 281, 291»

Concepts treated

Gnosis (conocimiento salvífico)La narración y la gnosis comparten raíz griega (gno-); el gnosticismo antiguo se lee como precedente ontológico del encuentro, no como analogía.

pp. 172, 219

Imaginación (phantasia)Se distingue el imaginal clarividente (talento salvaje) del imaginal simbólico (visión salvaje), sin tratarlos como excluyentes.

p. 108

Ocultismo (occultisme)El asiento catalográfico clasifica la obra bajo «Occultism».

p. 3

Works cited

Conversation

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